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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:43 pm    Post subject:

What sort of bark?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:43 pm    Post subject:

Just ordinary garden mulching bark.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:07 pm    Post subject:

I have given bark a go and gone back to Pumice sand
The bark is bulky and seems gets dirty faster than the pumice sand.
The pumice sand raked clean each week, removes far more debis while the bark it is far more difficult to clean as well.
With pumice sand in 9 flights and around 40 birds, I get about 20 liters of debis per week that I can spead around under trees, gardens etc without problem, and the flights are kept much cleaner.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject:

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The grit is replaced every two weeks

Hi greg,is it alright to leave food for a weak? i am always worried it will rot and harm birds
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:33 pm    Post subject:

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This framing/wire combo is NOT suitable for large birds like Galahs, Sulpher crested, that will snap the wire welds, and chew the framing away in no time at all

I know you keep crimsons and kings so I guess it is alright for them? Eclectus need something stronger?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:20 am    Post subject:

I have never looked into keeping Eclectus, general rule of thumb if the parrots are great wood chewers on uses steel frame and a heavy mesh.
Galahs, sulphur crested are big time wood chewers...crimsons kings kakariki , just have a nibble every so often
If Eclectus are big wood chewers a far heavier gauge chain mesh would ne required.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Aviary Constuction Design

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The water bowls have a large hole, underneath

do you leave the area around the drain without sand as shown in the pic?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:09 pm    Post subject:

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use the off cuts of ply to make a kickboard

What's a kickboard (not my first language0
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:26 am    Post subject:

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do you leave the area around the drain without sand as shown in the pic?

The pumice sand u see is a thin layer on the floor.
The floors are made of concret, 12 to 25mm thick..floated off so water drains to the area of the water tray.
under the water tray is a hole in the dirt, in this is a 20 liter bucket with holes in the bottom. the hole is deeper than the bucket about another 100 to 150 mm. the bucket canbe lifited out of the hole.
What's a kickboard (not my first language0
A kickboard is a board that goes around the base of something...
A mesh roll is 900mm wide. this is attached horozonally from the roof.
Then attached to a horozonal beam lower down...then another horozonal meash section 900 + 900 =1800 the roof at the front is 2000mm that leaves a gap of about 200 mm around the base....this is the kickboard.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:15 pm    Post subject:

*BUMP*

I have been looking around differen threads and come up with a few questions about aviary construction, especially about timber.

Steps mentions treated pine wood and certain codes/grades like H1-2-3-4, but I believe those codes aren't used here in Spain.
Could you explain those grades in plain language, pls?

Then.... for framing you recommend 50x50mm pine timber, borax treated. Is this right?

Is there any other kind of wood that could be used, like eucalyptus? fir?

About the roof and side panels, you recommend ply. Also pine wood ply, any special grade?

I know these could sound like stupid questions... but wouldn't like to build a flight and then first time it rains the flight goes to hell
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Thanks!

Cheers / Pablo

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:07 pm    Post subject:

Pab and I where discussing the subject about a yr or so ago by email
I wrote up a description modified from my orginal construction and design.
Similar, easier to construct, more kitset panels that can be easy dismantled and moved by trailer.

Hopefuly Pab still has the old email Wink

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Steps mentions treated pine wood and certain codes/grades like H1-2-3-4, but I believe those codes aren't used here in Spain.

H1 is interior framing, used to be borax treated.
At the other end is H4..that is ground treated and preserved for something like a min of 25 yrs+

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Then.... for framing you recommend 50x50mm pine timber, borax treated. Is this right?

yep...and sits on bricks or if using timber H3 or H4 50x 75mm laid flat on the ground

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:30 am    Post subject:

Been digging around e-mails for a while and finallly found it :)



gotta go now, we will discuss later about it

for now one quick question...
did you notice that the aviaries were drowning down in the ground for these years or did they stay level?

about timber... eucalyptus, pine, etc... or only pine is good?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:51 am    Post subject:

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did you notice that the aviaries were drowning down in the ground for these years or did they stay level?


They stay level...they are not heavy.

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about timber... eucalyptus, pine, etc... or only pine is good?

You mean the timber that lays on the ground?
I use H3 or 4 ground treated pine ......some have old bricks laid end to end instead....just laid out, not fixed.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:26 pm    Post subject:

Hi!

if aviaries are not heavy... I have +1 question... what about winds? Never had problems?
Sorry about so many q's but better be safe than sorry. If the aviary rolls over that would not be funny.
signlol

Any ways to sort of attach it to the ground?
Maybe tie a few wires to a few cement blocks?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:05 pm    Post subject:

By the time one has 2 or 3 flights stacked together they a damn heavy
Just a single flight needs 4 guys to lift.
We have had some big winds here over the yrs, like the end of hurrcanes come down from the tropics...not a worry, sleep sound.

The big advantage is 1 person with just a electric screw driver can dismantle a set of 5 flights in about 4 hrs...reassemble in about 6 hrs not including shaving the ground off level around the edges.

All it is a frontpanel and 2 side panels...held together by screwing the roof ply and rear panel to them....them some small ply 'tags' that hold the front to the sides.
When one has 2 or more flights, the inside dividing panels have a door in them.

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