The lutino is deffinately a hen I watched her lay the egg! So no question about her sex, its the little cinnamon that I have grave doubts about even though it looks to be female, it acts the part of a male!
I think Cricket the handtamed baby is a hen also.
Thanks Pabloc Cheers!
sorry mate, I didn't remember
as it's usual people asks about sex etc... sometimes we forget who asked and who didn't
And it's good you remind me I said it's 2 females because if I said something different now I would look a bit stupid haha
Just kidding, watching those pics I would say it's 3 females, so you need to look for a boy or swap one of the females.
Btw... introducing a handtamed female with non-tamed birds I would say doesn't really make a difference.
Even if they see you interacting with the hand-fed kakariki they will still do things at their own pace.
Definitely you need a male.
And I don't mean to be unpolite, but there are breeders and breeders. Some people when they notice you don't have a clue might sell you 2 hens as a pair, have seen it happen with other species. Done deal and money in the pocket they don't care about a disatisfied customer.
And of course, sometimes honest breeders make mistakes, but then they would be willing to help you patch the problem.
For instance a few weeks ago I had a hobbyist come over buy a pair of cockatiels. I could have sold him a 5 y.o. male instead of a 2009 "youngster". He told me he was indifferent but I recommended the younger one as they are usually calmer and accept the keeper more readily.
And also I could have charged him for another defective male (problem in legs and a bit stunt due to calcium deficiency of his mother). Instead I gave it away to him.
He told me if I didn't show him the legs he would have never noticed.
Don't mean to show off, just mean that there's people that won't care about tricking a newbie customer. Not always tho.
Forgot to reply to the scruffy comment...yes she is very scruffy looking the feathers are not in the best of condition at all but I have her on proboost to help her feathers condition and she has improved since I got her, she did look much much worse a couple of weeks ago when I got her. When it was said she was a hen I presumed she had been used to hatch out a few clutches and that was why she was so scruffy, I will never know the true story behind these birds as the storyline as to their background is continually changing! Do you have any recomendations as regards her feathers. I know they werent getting baths like they should have been before I got them so that could have contributed too to the scruffiness of her feathers if indeed she is a girl! She is the one I really have doubts about as she behaves like a male towards the Lutino. The lutino is deffinately a hen! She has proven herself by laying the eggs!
Thanks Pabloc
sorry mate, I didn't remember
as it's usual people asks about sex etc... sometimes we forget who asked and who didn't
And it's good you remind me I said it's 2 females because if I said something different now I would look a bit stupid haha
Just kidding, watching those pics I would say it's 3 females, so you need to look for a boy or swap one of the females.
Btw... introducing a handtamed female with non-tamed birds I would say doesn't really make a difference.
Even if they see you interacting with the hand-fed kakariki they will still do things at their own pace.
Definitely you need a male.
And I don't mean to be unpolite, but there are breeders and breeders. Some people when they notice you don't have a clue might sell you 2 hens as a pair, have seen it happen with other species. Done deal and money in the pocket they don't care about a disatisfied customer.
And of course, sometimes honest breeders make mistakes, but then they would be willing to help you patch the problem.
For instance a few weeks ago I had a hobbyist come over buy a pair of cockatiels. I could have sold him a 5 y.o. male instead of a 2009 "youngster". He told me he was indifferent but I recommended the younger one as they are usually calmer and accept the keeper more readily.
And also I could have charged him for another defective male (problem in legs and a bit stunt due to calcium deficiency of his mother). Instead I gave it away to him.
He told me if I didn't show him the legs he would have never noticed.
Don't mean to show off, just mean that there's people that won't care about tricking a newbie customer. Not always tho.
Just my 0.02
The handtamed baby was purchased from a breeder alright and she has been very helpful, but the original two the cinnamon and the lutino were purchased to rescue them as their situation was not good their surroundings were cramped with no climbing space, their diet was poor and they did not have access to a bath to wash in. I didnt intend to breed but I wouldnt want her sitting on eggs each time either with no babies in them. Would I not need a male for each of them? Or do you have a reason in saying one male?
Thanks Pabloc Cheers!
Depending on your available space and budget, you can eitehr buy 1 male and keep 1 or 2 male siblings for your single females, or buy 2 new males.
It depends if you can keep 1-2-3 pairs and their offspring until sold.
Thanks Pabloc! I guess I had better get to work and build an aviery for them first so! What would happen if I put the three hens in together without adding a male and breeding, would they get frustrated and keep producing eggs? I thought if there was no nestbox in there that they would not lay eggs but I have benn proven wrong on that point by Peanut!
Again thanks Pabloc and Cheers!
in my case cockatiels and kakariki hens with no nests occasionally may lay a couple of eggs on the floor, but that's all, not really a vicious circle of constant laying.
So it's up to you, you can wait and see if the process repeats or it was just an isolated event.
We have just taken 3 pair 'off the lay' after 5 batches of eggs and chicks in the last 10 months
Removing nesting boxes one at a time.
2 of the hens laid 1 egg each in the seed tray, and no more.
One of those laid 1 egg in one of the nesting boxes before we could remove all the nesting boxes.
The other pair just stopped. _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
Thanks Pabloc and Thanks Steptoe, yes I was a little afraid of an aviary setting and having babies coming out my ears so to speak if the males were in there with thm all the time fertilizing eggs but it seems this can regulated and the having of a clutch depends on a nestbox being present so thanks, thats a relief because although I would like them to experience being mums I dont want them to wear themselves out being mums so thanks for the info! I have also discovered for sure and certain that its 3 hens, yes Pabloc you were right about the cinnamon, she is a hen and about to lay eggs I would think, as she stood today to be mounted by the lutino who deffinately is a hen and already has 3 eggs layed! So I am expecting her to lay eggs in the next week or so! Poor girl I hope she doesnt sit as there wont be anything in them.
Thanks for all the help! Cheers!
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Do you have any recomendations as regards her feathers. I know they werent getting baths like they should have been before I got them so that could have contributed too to the scruffiness of her feathers if indeed she is a girl! She is the one I really have doubts about as she behaves like a male towards the Lutino. The lutino is deffinately a hen! She has proven herself by laying the eggs!
I have also discovered for sure and certain that its 3 hens, yes Pabloc you were right about the cinnamon, she is a hen and about to lay eggs I would think, as she stood today to be mounted by the lutino who deffinately is a hen and already has 3 eggs layed! So I am expecting her to lay eggs in the next week or so! Poor girl I hope she doesnt sit as there wont be anything in them.
