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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:19 am    Post subject:

Gunnsa, within the red fronted, there are color mutations. It means the bird is the same species as the green (wildcolor), just the color is different.

(there are also yellow-fronted mutations)

I'm glad they ended up in good hands, and that the kakarikivirus is spreading!

Cheers / Pablo

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:37 am    Post subject:

Gunnsa wrote:
May, one of the parents looked like the green one in your pictures. I didn't know that there was such a bird as yellow red fronted, I thought that the only ones in captivity were red fronted or yellow fronted. Thanks a lot! Laughing

Steptoe, the book debate is more on an intellectual level than a real nuisance, taming and training of the birds is in reality going very well.


so both parents were green but one had a yellow cap? ..... is so .... the shop keeper was right...!! but wow..... i dont know how they produced such wild colour babies...!!!!!

the yellow bird in my pic is a red fronted bird.... but its a mutation so although it has only been bread from red fronted birds.... they have been selected to produce babies that are yellow. There are lots of different mutations.... check out the gallery .... a mutation is different to a hybred which is a cross between 2 different species.... red fronted and yellow fronted or their descentents.

But as you say... if your not intending to breed them it doesnt really matter.

my birds used to eat my books too signlol ..... they particularly liked the "good house keeping cookery book" i layed a bunch od telephone directories along the top of the books and let them chew on them instead Shame on you

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:14 am    Post subject:

wall Could someone lend me a wall to bang my head on, mine have all holes in them now... wall

The reason is self-inflicted. I've been planning to add two males to the flock, since I felt that the brothers needed some buddies. A sudden opportunity rose when there was a sales announcement on my local parrot forum. 9 kakariki needed rehoming. I suspected that they were hybrids, because kakariki seems to be the common name for both the red-fronted and yellow-fronted here in Finland and people generally don't know that they are different species. Well, my suspicions proved right. I decided to take two boys anyway, since I wasn't looking to breed mine, them being hybrids as well.

So far so good. Then I clapped eyes on a beautiful lutino pure red-fronted hen. The owner told me that she was bought from a breeder in Sweden and that she would be good to breed from as she was not related to the others. I decided there and then that I would take the hen so that she would not be making hybrid babies.

Yes, I was aware that bringing a hen home to two cocks was risky. Yes, I knew there would be trouble.

The other bird i chose was a young male. He's only 6 weeks old so I'm not sure if he really should have left his parents yet. However, the owner had to get rid of all his birds and the young male would get surrogate dads.

Well. I brought the birds home and put them in a separate cage so that everyone could get to know each other on neutral ground. My boys were aware that something was going on and kept making contact calls. Then Teo discovered the truth! There was a lady in the other cage!

Now I've got a sex-crazed Teo... He does not eat (well much anyway, just a bite now and then) and he keeps vigilant guard over the newcomers. He also adopted the baby and feeds it throught the bars. His brother Iwa is chased away from everything and gets his butt kicked if he comes within sight of Teo..

Yes, I told me there would be trouble, I just didn't listen!

Going to find more walls...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:23 pm    Post subject:

Hi Gunnsa,

I have housed once 4 males together, with hens in the adjoining flights, and the 4 males that were in the same flight became 2 pairs. Kinda like 2 of the males adopted a female role.
But I guess your guy has his preference very well defined.

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