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Peter
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:54 am    Post subject: Irresistible attraction

Hi guys,

Today I experienced something I want to share with you.
I have a couple who are in the middle of a brood round. Because the male was the cause of formerly broken eggs and it was the female her 3 attempt in 2, 5 months I decided to give her a break. Because I have also other future plans with her I separated them.

I released the male in an aviary where 3 males and 3 females are housed (no couples). The females were clearly excited when he arrived. One female wanted to mate immediately and has undertaken several attempts but was interrupted each time by the curiosity of the others. I don’t know if they have actually mated, couldn’t watch the whole day, but they have clearly formed a pair now.

What I like to know is what makes this male so attractive the others in the aviary don’t have. Is it some kind of chemistry he spreads in the air? Or a sound?
Maybe he lights up in the UV part of the light spectrum?

Peter
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 2:45 am    Post subject:

Peter,
I have experienced a similar thing but in reverse. We have a cock bird in our collection who is a very nasty and mean son of a gun. He has attacked just about every hen we have put into his reach. Then one day I noticed him calling a hen that was 3 cages down. I could tell they were chatting by the way she responded to his constant chortling.
We took the plunge and I caught her and placed her in the aviary with him and watched closely with the net in hand. Within an hour of her being in the aviary he was feeding her and the next day they were mating. The result is 3 young healthy chicks. He did kill one chick but that was our fault as he has done that in the past also. He will feed chicks until they leave the box but once they can fly he doesnt like them in his aviary.
These little parrots sure are a handful of surprises.
We also have a Quaker Parrot who gets on well with Kakariki in the aviary next door until we place a yellow mutation in there. He attacks the wire, fights with his mate and will even pluck his own feathers. It is amazing how birds can detect the different colours and which colours affect them.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:10 am    Post subject:

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Maybe he lights up in the UV part of the light spectrum

I saw a documentary on budgies a while back, how on their head they have a patch that was UV sensitive. this also had an effect on what budgie breed with another in a mixed aviary...it also explained why a 'forced' cross between particular budgies was required. Often if the UV patches where very different they would not mate at all.
They also placed budgies with other closely related species of parrots. these also had UV patches but very different in shape and pattern to the budgies. The more different the patch the less likely hood of breeding.

If one places yellow and reds in an aviary, they do not mate between breeds...they will only do so if intensely forced. (this is information from a retired and respected breeder of many decades) I have reds and yellows in adjacent flights...Reds will communicate between reds and yellows between yellows, even several flights down the line and aviaries 20 to 30m away...there is very little communication between the yellows and reds (and the crimsons, kings, burkes) other than WARNING DANGER and "the man is coming with our dinner" calls
I do not have a UV light to check out patches or if they exist in Kakariki, thu I do think it is something that mutation breeders should look into much more closely.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:00 pm    Post subject:

Hi guys,

It seems that communication plays an active role in the making of a bond between Kikes. In my case the female(s) also couldn't see him but only hear him.
I remembered a similar technique one of the members (Kakariki) uses.
It took a while before I found it.
http://www.kakariki.net/ftopict-91.html (beneath)

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By Kakariki : I always have a lot of birds spare. When i want to change a pair I remove the male of a breeding pair when the chicks are about 4 weeks old. (I leave the female with a max of 4 chicks). At the same time I set a male apart in a cage nearby the female. After 2 weeks (chicks app 6 weeks old) I put the new male with the female and the chicks. When they like eachother the female wants to pair immediately. I've doen this about 15 times. In 12 cases there was no problem, in 3 cases the female didn't like the male. You can immediately try another male. Sometimes it takes 3 diffrent males before the female is pleased.


Peter
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