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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:15 pm    Post subject:

hi guys

I have two massive avocado trees in my back yard they are over 40 yrs old my mum planted them when she built the house. i eat avacado all the time as we harvest thousands every year. i have never feed them to my birds and have no intention to do so. But some of our local wild life from time to time come in flocks and feast on the fruit. I only seen the 28 parrot do this once but the crows are conyinually eating th ripe fruit which have fallen to the ground. also rats love eating the skin not so much the fruit.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:46 pm    Post subject:

i'm thinking on my feet here, but if that's the case, then as mentioned earlier, it would make sense to me for it to be because of some content of avocado that domestic birds/pets really dont need. i have a comparison and will condense it for you! i live in the UK and breed Australian finches. i cannot feed my finches wild bird seed as the fat content is too high and would kill them (as well as other things) because they don't require it as it is already supplemented in their food and treats etc, and they dont require as much as a wild bird would either. i reckon therefore, if wild birds and rats eat avocado with no ill effects, then it has to be something similar.

i dont know if that makes sense, but i think it does!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:59 pm    Post subject:

hey

im not to sure what happens to the birds after they eat it i have not seen any sick or dead bireds around and they do keep coming back. maybe after all these years they have been able to build up their resistant to the fruit.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:51 pm    Post subject:

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Go back to the 1st couple posts...and a little background by Peter and Peterlimburg....

Personally I dont know of ANYONE or heard of 2nd 3rd or even 3th party ppl who have had a bird die from Advacado...or chocalate...tea /coffee.
Personally I dont think it is toxic as one would feed rat poison to your pet or bird....long term in excessive amounts maybe????

I recon it is an old wives tale perpetuated thru rumour over many generations of mis information.
I have feed Privet , tobaco weed and other intoduced noxious toxic plants found in NZ to kakariki...they just refuse to touch it.
I have not feed Castor oil plant or oliander..both of these are known to be highly fatal animals and humans.

When I get another sick Kakariki, I will try the advaccado...till then all we have to go on is unsubstantiated hearsay Advocado is poisonus.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:43 am    Post subject:

Steptoe wrote:
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Go back to the 1st couple posts...and a little background by Peter and Peterlimburg....


I recon it is an old wives tale perpetuated thru rumour over many generations of mis information.
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It an old wives tale........
Last year i visit a zoo here in the city and they feet the birds little chucks of advocado.
I have do the same and no kaka died.
My conclusion is, a little bit can't harm the kaka's
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject:

Damn forgot about this post...
I left a plate out with a nice avocado cut in half and got busy called away, and forgot abot it...Our King house parrot got into it...loved it...a big mess.
Hes still around, didnt effect him at all.

Yep I recon its an old wives tail.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject:

:fun: hahaha signlol

fairytale busted Laughing

And now the Mango Think Whistle
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject:

Mango??

geeze glad someone didnt tell told our birds about mango!!
If they had known that they would have decided to die or get sick by now

Another busted.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:10 am    Post subject:

thumb Yep , I agree.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:24 am    Post subject:

And cholate? and coffee?
Well it cant be good for them...
I had a sulphur crested....loved chololate...if not looking would eat heaps, then throw it back p...
Used to sneak and coffee cups left around to...

And enjoyed a night at the pub once in a while...lke his beer and rum and coke...thu next day .....hang over

Eventally died thu...teflon poisoning at a friends....cookng cakes in the oven on teflon coated trays....also killed a rossella.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:11 am    Post subject:

May i add to this conversation?

I too have heard not to feed your Kak advocado...?

Being new to this bird, i have read an awful lot in the last week or two, and to be honest, a lot of it has been contradictary.

Can you help out with some of the other things i have read about diet and needs please?

1. No apple pips. Or orange, cherry etc. Although seeds are ok, strawberry, blackcurrant, kiwi etc.

2. No branches from a "prunus" tree in the cage. Ie, cherry, plum, pear.

(something to do with the natural cyanide content?)

Trues or falses???
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:48 am    Post subject:

Yes has something to dowith Arsenic etc in pips branches

No it is not harmfull...these trace elements are rquired for good health..therefore apip here and there is good in the diet....but feed them a plate full of pips would be stupid.

And we have Cherry branches attached as perches on many of out nesting boxes

"Prunis" is that macrocaepa and/or Yew.. that I know is is poisonus to cattle/live stock...and I have seen the results of cows feeding on clippingsd from a trimed hedge row and the abortions it caused.
If poisonous to birds..have kinow Idea, but would suspect so.

On the other hand we have put tobacco weed tree /privit and several other piosonus plants in our flights...to see reaction of capitive breed birds to such plants.....they did not touch them and the branches where in the flight for a week.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:24 am    Post subject:

Kakariki seem to have great sensibility re-food palatability and possible toxic plants.

Prunus is Cheery; I have fed large amounts of Cherry foliage, branches and fruit; doesn't seem to have done them any harm. But perhaps moderation and varied diet is best.

A few other things they regularly get is Douglas Fir, Bamboo and Pinus Radiata basically any foliage.
If unsure, I don't give all the birds a new plant, just a few and see how they go.

Still not sure about acorns?. Anyone know or heard anything?.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:07 pm    Post subject:

Thankyou Steptoe and Stumbler:) I do actually have cherry branches all ready to use, but didnt want to take a chance putting them in the aviary until I knew for sure. Acorns? Sorry, I really dont know, but am interested to find out!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:47 am    Post subject:

All I know about acorns is was told when playing with them as a child, dont put them in your mouth or would get very sick.
Google is there but, its late off to bed
Hmm no off to bed smily.

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