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Steptoe
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:17 am    Post subject:

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The kakariki are the ones to cause problems in and out of the other birds nest boxes and annoying the other birds, nothing aggressive just being kakarikis. i am in the process of rehousing all my birds back to single pairs.

lmao
Been there due that...

Then a few weeks ago visited a yellow breeder down country....
Yep I saw it, he was breeding kakariki with finches burkes in a flight about 3m x 12m....ok
The kakariki nestboxes at 1 end and the others at the other...
Why will my kakariki, red or yellow be the same wall
"just being kakarikis."
The only difference was I do not believe they get as constant and vaired diet as ours 2x a day...As to this having any affect I would not think so.

Our kakariki even got into the kings nest....
I made the turqs and burkes nest holes a little smaller, trouble was the female kakariki could just pop herself in...any smaller and the other would not be able to get in.... wall

We have breed 2 pair kakariki in 1 flight with the nesting boxes not in line of sight, be hind panels...but the arguements, I got sick off it, and hatching rate was a lot lower, I think because the females spent so much time out of the nest.
Eventually when the chicks where still a few days old I moved 1 nesting box and parents to another spare flight.

We have breed 1 pair in a communty of 5 or 6 other kakariki without a problem...far less arguements than above, but where only able to do so after they have been together for near 2 yrs.

For the last few seasons it has been strictly 1 pair per flight breeding.
When the chicks are a week or so out of the nest they are moved to a flight with 2 single males, which immediately start to feed them and are very defensive of them. As other batches emerge they are added.

When that gets a little crowed, some get moved to the communty flight, no nesting boxes..turqs , burrkes (they are old and past it now,) couple cocteils, a king, a few quail vaccum cleaners.
This flight we treat like a tropical fish tank, varied enetrtaining and interesting.
Red and uellow kakariki.
What is noticeable is what species have interaction with what.
Turqs and burkes nothing...they are sort of 'cousins' species
Reds and yellows, the same nothing
But all the species do ionteract/see the different species.
ie a kakariki and cockteil, burke and a kakariki, or king and kakariki.
Epec king and kakariki.

Yep some people can mix breed, I have seen it....why I have no damn idea....us we are just like wyndara

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:33 am    Post subject:

we have 4 baby kakis and 4 baby teils in the same flight both sets of parents justs got on wiyh it no probs just the male kaki is first to the food trays
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:13 pm    Post subject:

Steptoe you are spot on when you say kakariki and other species together are entertaining. Kakariki cocks trying to feed king parrot hens was always a bit of a laugh. in the end the kakariki would find a way. size difference never fazed them. If other birds were nesting the kakariki cock would take it upon himself to feed the hens , even sitting at the nest enterance watching what was happening and waiting for the hen to leave, all the while dodging the attacks from the cock birds who belonged to the chicks.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:29 am    Post subject:

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other species together are entertaining. Kakariki cocks trying to feed king parrot hens was always a bit of a laugh.


Kings and kakariki go so well together...when a male kakariki is on the back of a semi mature female king trying to mate..that looks wierd

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:47 am    Post subject:

Steptoe wrote:
We have kept kakatiki with finches, kings, crimsons, quail. bourkes and turqs
We have experimented with breeding in a colony, kakariki only..several pairs and in mixed colony

Kakariki are teroritorial around their nesting box... and from what we have established and area 2 to 3 m....yhen once the chicks harch they can become very protective, espec the female when she comes out.

Some species of bird kakariki dont even recobnise their existance..quail and often finches and believe it or not another species of kakariki.

An established flock of kakariki will breed but nesting boxes should not be inline of sight odf each other
Suceesful breeding depends on lack odf stress...ie the female spends her time out washing, pruning feeding and being feed by the male...not defending terrorty..spending time off the nest.
Colony breeding Very much depends on the size of the cage/flight and how well established the flock is....
An established flock is one that has been together several yrs, pecking orders are well established.

As to other species in pairs what ever, that has very little influnence, thu kakariki will destory other species nests if they can get into them...more out of playful curiosty than anything else.

If attempting to breed in colony, mixed or just kakariki pairs

Yes one can breed kakariki in a cage 'on the fridge' with a small nesting box attached to the side.


Very important, If one is going to attempt to breed in a colony, mixed species or not, have a back up plan to isolate/separate if need be.
This could be building a spare flight, having spare cages, or even building a portable partition with a door in it to split the flight.
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Please can you tell me more about breeding Kaks in clonies as I have found my male to be very territorial and not sure how he would react need to know also what sort of parakeets would breed happily together such as Kakarikkis and conure or amazons, can you help please?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:01 pm    Post subject:

Angie,

breeding several pairs in the same flight, unless it's a huge facility it's not advisable, breeding results are usually poor.

Then... you might try to breed kakariki with non-aggressive species. I have bred myself kakariki with cockatiels but results were not very consistent. Last season kakariki put too much stress on the cockatiels and they abandoned several clutches of eggs in the middle of brooding. So I'm not likely repeating. I used to be in favor of mixed breeding but honestly I changed my mind, I think it's better to breed 1 pair per cage/aviary.

As far as there are no nests and they are not breeding probably you can keep kakariki with many other species, in non-breeding situation they are very tolerant.

Cheers / Pablo

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:04 am    Post subject:

pabloc wrote:
Angie,

breeding several pairs in the same flight, unless it's a huge facility it's not advisable, breeding results are usually poor.

Then... you might try to breed kakariki with non-aggressive species. I have bred myself kakariki with cockatiels but results were not very consistent. Last season kakariki put too much stress on the cockatiels and they abandoned several clutches of eggs in the middle of brooding. So I'm not likely repeating. I used to be in favor of mixed breeding but honestly I changed my mind, I think it's better to breed 1 pair per cage/aviary.

As far as there are no nests and they are not breeding probably you can keep kakariki with many other species, in non-breeding situation they are very tolerant.

Cheers / Pablo


I agree with this, i have the same experience.
Kakarikies breeding in the same flight is asking for touble.

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