FAXing is not a good idea....when they go thru the feed gap in the fax machine ..thats ok, but its getting them thru the other end after being sent is the problem...they dont come out as a very good faximilly.
Recieving is the issue...damages the fax machine.
And dont ask if I know THAT from experiance _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
I have yet to see a hen lay eggs in a constant manner...
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Sometimes they lay 3 or 4 sit then lay the rest, which results in eggs hatching over nearly 2 weeks.
I have 2 pairīs at the moment that each laid 10 eggs. My henīs all lay their eggs every second day with very litle deviation. They start to incubate on the day between egg nr 2 and 3. This is why the first and second egg hatches at the same day and next day the third egg hatches. The following eggs hatch with 2 days apart. This is the norm 4 my kakīs.
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you can let the male wean them off, but if like me, dont like leg rings...
Why not let the parent-birds take care of the chicks all the way?
to be quite honest freddie i dont know ... iv'e never got to this stage before and im unsure where to go from here .... i can rather house them with 2 cock and 2 hens which are not breeding .. or put them in their own flight once weaned by dad ... or leave them be !
thing is i don't know what the consequence's will be to any of these scenario's as ive never been here before... iv'e been reading up but still can't get an handle on these final weeks
iv'e no rings to ring them and guess its a little too late for that but i do need to keep some kind of record so how would i go about this without rings?
i have now found a supplier of rings if needs be but if there are other methods i can try i will. _________________ thanks brucie.....
I really dont understand the question m8....i dont see a problem there.
I think you are maybe concerned about something that doesnt exist
If u have the 2nd nesting box in, the male looks after the hen in the other box...And carries on feeding the current chicks...
They come out, he looks after the hen still, weans them.
Occassionally..very rarely.. if the female comes out she may drive the young away from the nesting box she is in...
The only real issue, if you leave the chicks in that flight till the beaks turn silver and the iris devalopes...about 2 weeks if the actually come out of the nesting box the right time...it can be hrd to distingish between the Dad and the new ones u want to move....espec out door flights because when u are in there they fly high and to the light...makes looking for detail difficult.
Im not a fan of banding, lost couple birds getting caught on stuff.
I dont believe the birds should be weaned untill close the the iris form or has formed....
What I believe happens in the wild, And Peter in the Netherlans put me onto this a couple yrs back....its not just the Dad that weans them off, but single maturemales in the greater flock...what is called Uncling.
The 1st time I did this, I was very hesident, within minutes of closing the flight door....all 3 single males where feeding the new birds...unbelivable..
But then Peter is an extremely knowledgeable, experianced kakariki breeder...I put him up there with the top kakariki people anywhere in the world. _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
you do have another flight ready?
you can let the male wean them off, but if like me, dont like leg rings...have 3 mature males in a holding flight...and maybe other weaned tennages from prevuios batches....when u see the fledged chicks eatting seed, a few veggies, iris still not devaloped, anf the beak still pink...the spare males will finish the weaning.
If you wait till the iris devalpoes and beak goes silver, you can have difficults ID the chicks and parents
and this was my answer which i think u may have missed.
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thanks lear ... steptoe i have a spare flight but its empty... i also have a flight with two cocks and two hens "no nest boxes" in what do u suggest... will i have to seperate the two cocks from the hens?
it just got me a little puzzled sorry _________________ thanks brucie.....
quick update ... the young are just starting to get their red crown feathers.
only thing is... they are not all green kaks like the parents some have yellow feathers ... after a bit of questions and research i discovered the hen had the genes but was not presenting it except for her legs were a pinkish grey "must pay more attention"
it just goes to show how important it is to know what you are buying and for breeders to keep check of their stock !!
this kak was the only all green out of the three.
hi pabloc
well all three chicks have left the nest now 2 have a little yellow which was a surprise but all really healthy ....last time i looked mum had hatched the first 2 chicks of second batch will get on with some pics soon been a bit busy landscaping ready for my aviary .... can someone tell me what is the latest i can put my birds out this summer so they climatize properly we had some cold winters the last couple of years. _________________ thanks brucie.....
Thats hard....our birds breed outside anyway, so acclimitization is not a problem.
We have frosts down to 4 to about 7 degs, and kakariki hatch in the middle of this nps.
I know this sounds hard....and no doubt u have read a lot about my experimentations......without doing so I would not be where I am or able to frequently say stuff like...kakariki books are a lot of crap, old wives tales etc.
I believe, as a breeder one doesnt take things at face value, find out for real.
I would have a sheltered section/ cnr in the flight, fairly high up...or at least have a roof on it (heat rises) perches high inside, at least 3 single males, and release different parts of autumn, thru winter, into the outside holding avairy....I would also do so at warmer periods of the cold winter
At least a couple young...but not too early out of the nest....but before the iris forms...about when the pink bill starts to turn silver.
Then push the limits over a couple seasons of younger birds, and colder weather.
Personally I think you /we will be very suprised how hardy kakariki are IF raised on good diets. _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
steptoe i will keep posting how i get on with this .... iv'e spent the day riddling muck to get good topsoil for my 15cm bed for my new lawn ... whilst doing this i had two companions "blackbirds" probably this years as i saw mum and dad weaning them off on the ground a few weeks since.
they got so close it was unreal even tried to land on the handle of my spade while i was a foot away... they made good use of the worms id turned all day and even stayed watching us whilst they had a beak full. the blue tits weaned their young in my back garden this week and i think both them and the blackbirds have started a second clutch which is unusual for the uk as we've had some late springs lately.
hopefully with some strategically placed nest boxes and my aviary up i can encourage them to nest here annually. _________________ thanks brucie.....
I have had a 'pet' wild thrush for several yrs in the garden...it wanders up and down the rows ...scratching way in the dawf bean row next to me while Im picking the oher row....I could actually reach out and touch it.
Sadly the other day, a pile of feathers... a stray neighbours cat...
Havnt seen the female around thu....they have raised quite a few families in the last few yrs.
Got a couple of black birds ....couple native fantail, that often come into thr house, flickaround, upset the house parrots and head out again..
Then there are the couple tui in the banskia tree...they have been bring their families hers for a go 10 yrs at least.
And several pairs of white eyes hang around
Yes outside avairies certainly bring in a lot of birds...but not quite how one would expect....
Rather pairs that stake their terroritory.....except the sparrows...they are just a big bunch of seems a random flock
Avaries, along with a veggie garden, and the right tress certainly brings the birds in.... _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
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steptoe i will keep posting how i get on with this .... iv'e spent the day riddling muck to get good topsoil for my 15cm bed for my new lawn ... whilst doing this i had two companions "blackbirds" probably this years as i saw mum and dad weaning them off on the ground a few weeks since.
