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Allen
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 8:11 pm    Post subject: Aviary Sizes for Breeding

bisu777 asked: Has anyone bred kaks in cages of 120cm long, 50cm high and 40 cm wide? I have several such cages unused.

I have bred kakariki in cages that size and even slightly smaller. I do not know what the long term effects are of leaving them in there indefinitely, / months as I usually allow a pair to breed two or three times before moving / rotating them into a larger (2m by 3m) aviary for a couple of weeks exercise. Sometimes it takes quite a few months before the pair will breed again when moved back to their small breeding suspended aviary. Kakariki are very active and busy birds so if you use small cages, give them lots of stuff to play with.

Let us know how you progress.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject:

Can u make this thread like the one I made for avairy design/build?
We in NZ have no idea what you guys oversea use or what sort of set ups you have.
This is important knowledge for (if and when) we are able to breed controlled blood lines on larger scales, for release.
Also for building large stocks of the rarer species, quickly and reliably.
We dont have the specialist experiance you breeders have overseas, with large breeding programs in cages...and I believe this is where its needed, and quite frankly, one of the main reasons the breeding programs being used are achieving the results that one would from kikes.

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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2005 4:59 am    Post subject:

It came to me as a surprise when Peter from Belgium told me that cages of such dimensions are used in Holland. Personally, I would vote against it as impairment to their activeness may lead to unwanted and desastrous consequences. I leave my pairs permanently in flights of 1.8m by 1.8m and 1m wide. However, Allen´s suggestion can be useful as my problem here is the kind that needs more breeding pairs in order to achieve my goal. Kaks here are hybridized ( red with yellow fronted ) tu such an extent that can cause a real heavy sigh! I am trying to breed them back as close as possible to pureness, to a point where the expected chicks from nestings are roughly predictable. I have already started with the building of a large community cage to retain those I consider as potencials for future breedings. I shall be posting a new subject to discuss about the types of crosses that should obtain adequate pureness.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:18 am    Post subject:



These are my 6 new breeding cages. 85cm long x 40 cm dept x 50 cm high.
If the chicks are old enough they will go in my new aviarie.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:34 am    Post subject:

Peter how do u setup yor nesting boxes with these breeding cages?
Inside /outside?
How big?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:26 pm    Post subject:

Peter, very clean hygenic looking set up you have.

I take those breeding cages are just for breeding and the adults do spend time in larger aviaries.

I find my birds don't breed well if they spend a prolonged time in small suspended aviaries.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:06 pm    Post subject:

Steptoe wrote:
Peter how do u setup yor nesting boxes with these breeding cages?
Inside /outside?
How big?

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The nesting boxes comes inside the breeding cages.
They are vertical , and the sizes are 35 cm high x 20 cm dept x 20 cm long.
The hole is in diameter 5.5 cm.
I do breeding with these size of breeding cages now for 4 years, the old ones were made of wood but these are made from aluminium with trespa.
They are better to clean and nearly indestructible Dancing
They are not cheap but quality has his price.(for the common 20 years Laughing )
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:37 pm    Post subject:

Imagine if we could breed kakariki like that in NZ...
And DoC (NZ dept of conservation) allowed us to release approved birds into the wild.
It would not be long before kakariki would be off the endangered species list Shocked

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