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How Not to Tame Your Kikes!

 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject: How Not to Tame Your Kikes!

We all know hand reared birds are best for pets....
And aviary breed don't make good pets...
(WRONG)
So if you don't wish your aviary breed Kikes to become tame..

1/DON'T feed fresh veggies/fruit 2x a day from external feeders
2/DON'T rake and clean the sand base once a week
3/DON'T scrub out water trays once a week
4/DON'T check your nests more than once a week
5/DON'T handle the chicks during the period they are in the nest
6/DON'T try to hand feed or interact with them while in the flights
7/DON'T Replenish their seed trays once a week
7/DON'T Ignore them at all times when in the flights

If you follow the above this will happen.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:18 pm    Post subject:

hahaha they just gotta have a nibble eh!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:58 pm    Post subject:

I know the post sounds a bit Flipant...but it works, Wica in another thread has also found the same, ignore them, they will come to u and there is nothing one can do about it.
I was just thinking...again....you guys with suspended floors...and dont access in side physically to clean etc....what happens then?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject:

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you guys with suspended floors...and don’t access in side physically to clean etc....what happens then?
Hi steptoe,
Great photos. Well, if you have a suspended - as in my case - they will hop on to your hand if you stick it in the cage, but that is indeed about it. I am looking at expending and hear different stories from different people. Those who favour suspended have basically 2 reasons: low maintenance (everything falls thru the mesh, sweep it up, that’s it) and of course less change of worms. They tell me that even in a dry climate as here in Brisbane the sand will get moist, fruit and droppings start to rot and with kakis like to forage on the ground, problems.
Others tell me that a conventional is just as easy to maintain: Rake the floor for left over food and leafs etc on a regular basis and that besides the normal cleaning of bowl, that’s it. They tell me that worms are not really a problem because birds are not dumb and will leave a rotten piece of fruit and eat from the fresh daily supply. Big plus ofcourse, is the interaction with the birds.
I think I have an idea of what you favour, but I’de like to hear your opinion on it if possible. Have you ever had suspendeds?
I see on the photo you have a lot of birds in the flight. Do they form pairs amongst them self’s or how does that work and do you prevent interbreeding. I know you have Crimson wings in an aviary with kakis. Is that a breeding pair. Would it be possible to have a breeding pair with kakais or is there going to be trouble – does this depend on the size of the aviary?
Lot of questions but better be will prepared.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject:

Rotting food...well if ppl just feed and not observe how much and what they eat season to season...yeah...bluntly ppl like that shouldnt be breeding...those methods are not permitted in Zoos
One under feeds slightly therefore, as i have explained in other posts even raking once a fortnight the food drys out, not rot...
Perfect hygine..birds dont grow up with any resistance to anything..not good...and yes they dont touch bad food. They are not as dumb as us.
Lets see what next signlol
When comes down to suspended or floor, both have the same amount of maintenance if cared for properly..advanage of floor, one can actually go in and enjoy , interact with your birds...after all isnt that what we have them for? If u just like looking, get a picture signlol
Have we had suspended...no, but before we went down the route we now have, we spent a lot of time with other avians, physically, when they clean, make up food , how they sort drainage, types of floors , nesting boxes...I believe in Work hard to be lazy, so set up right, and one spend more time enjoying than working
Worm issues, if you have wet aviaries then get new aviaries build them with a bit of thought put in..and regardless wet or dry regular maintenance is just the same...covered in other posts

Hummm next big breath this time signlol

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I see on the photo you have a lot of birds in the flight. Do they form pairs among st them self’s or how does that work and do you prevent interbreeding
yes they do, we like them to select their own partners, we in NZ only have wilds...when they select one gets better birds.
They do tend to select naturally between different blood lines
But keep in mine, most of our birds , because of laws in NZ on endangered native species, that include disease free pure breed , we take most of them down the back yard , dig a hole then with a very sharp pair of scissors chop[ their heads off...covered in posts in the DoC section of Forums
Hence as u go thru old posts u will see we have trialled alsorts of stuff from rat poison that doesnt harm birds, reaction of poisonous introduced plants in the wild, mixed flights, breeding in communities...heaps of stuff
Right now trialling a different method to breed in a flock that has not been together before...looking good.

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I know you have Crimson wings in an aviary with kakis. Is that a breeding pair.
Yep, but come breeding time the kakariki sort of intimidate the crimsons, so they get separated...

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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:54 am    Post subject:

I thought you could only keep one breeding pair of Kakarikis in a flight?
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:20 pm    Post subject:

Thats a holding flight, no nesting boxes
We have at the moment 13 flights 2 avairies and building another 30 sq m of flights over winter.
Setting up to start breeding yellow crowns again next spring

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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 4:00 pm    Post subject:

So you can keep more pairs together and they won't fight if no nesting boxes and you remove the separately to breed?
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 4:45 pm    Post subject:

yes....
We notice that observing those that pair up, it is very rare they are related.
They also produce far bigger and better birds from this natural selection.
I note here they are all wilds, not mutations.

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