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kirin
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:48 am    Post subject: worming

Hi all, I have started my female on a worming program after losing her mate to possible worms. I did however have to phone quite a few vets as they all did not deal with birds Rolling Eyes I eventually found a vet who was willing to look up worming on the web and after sitting in waiting room for ever signlol they gave me panacur but at a very high dosage than what the posts on this forum suggests, so i have just started the three day 0.lm. After this treatment do i do this every six months or year or is this just a one off. Please help very confused. And my female is ab fab eating and does not seem to be missing her mate too much would it be wrong to keep her without a friend.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:50 am    Post subject:

Dosing for the sake of dosing is not good for the birds....And will create a resistance in the worms...only dose if need to......maintance vinegar and apple cider vinegar etc (quick search block to the left) is the secret ..as I meantioned before we have not wormed any of our birds for many yrs...And they where checked at Massey University a while back.

This thread tells you how to check
http://www.kakariki.net/ftopict-59.html
AND the post below is by
Brett Gartrell, BVSc MACVSc(Avian Health) PhD
Lecturer in Avian and Wildlife Health
IVABS, Massey University
Palmerston North, NZ

BNrett is considered one of the leading Avain vets in the world...notice the PHd...and he works for several leading universities around the world.

It is this paper that your vet SHOULD be referencing to...Copy it and give to your vet
Quote:
1. Fenbendazole (Panacur 2.5)
Do not use Panacur 5 or Panacur 10 as these formulations can cause deaths...........

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kirin
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:37 pm    Post subject:

Hi Steptoe, I think I maybe taking to much notice of these forums!! in My last post i mentioned that my male had died and you suggested that it maybe worms!! and me being me deceided to take precautionary measures regarding my female thinking that if he had worms she more than likely will too. I think I may just leave things well alone!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 7:06 pm    Post subject:

I would worm..will not hurt....but do not worm on a regular baisis unles they require it.
How to check is in the link above.
It is near impossible to be accurate to diagonese anything remotely, at best it is a educated guess.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:24 pm    Post subject:

Hi!

Kirin, it's normal that you are a bit overwhelmed, happens to all of us once in a while. You have too much information all of a sudden, especially in the beginning.

De-worming the birds is OK in my opinion when a bird has just died, same as using antibiotics a given time a bird happens to be sick.
I think it's better that the bird might face the side effects or increase resistance to a given chemical, than loosing the bird.

Cheers / Pablo

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SDavies
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:21 am    Post subject:

i use ivermectin to worm all my birds incl the kaks :)
it can be bought online or threw your vet
http://www.medicines4yourpet.com/ivermectin-drops-01-10ml-1809-p.asp
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:06 am    Post subject:

Hi SDavies, I have wormed my female with panacur and she is doing really well, to be honest i did see invermectin on line but decided to seek veterinary help which to be fair i got more help from this website for the dosing as they gave me a lot higher dosage, I am pleased i did worm her as if she had died i would of felt guilty for not doing anything! I hope you know what i mean. I have worked with animals all my life being a kennel manager and stable manager but to be honest never thought a bird should be wormed. She is a little lonely though i think as she is coming down now and bullying the guineapigs for thier greens signlol. Thanks Kirin
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:29 am    Post subject:

kirin wrote:
Hi SDavies, I have wormed my female with panacur and she is doing really well, to be honest i did see invermectin on line but decided to seek veterinary help which to be fair i got more help from this website for the dosing as they gave me a lot higher dosage, I am pleased i did worm her as if she had died i would of felt guilty for not doing anything! I hope you know what i mean. I have worked with animals all my life being a kennel manager and stable manager but to be honest never thought a bird should be wormed. She is a little lonely though i think as she is coming down now and bullying the guineapigs for thier greens signlol. Thanks Kirin

glad to hear she is doing well :) we don't worm intentionally, it's just a benefit of the ivermectin as it covers all creepy crawlies. it's cheaper for us to buy it online then threw our avian vet becuase we have so many birds hehe and we don't have to travel for it! signlol

fingers crossed she stays well <v>
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