Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:35 am Post subject: Differences between behaviour cf Yellow and red Kakarikis
Most of the stuff on the internet seems to relate to Red Kakarikis. We have a pair of Yellow's and wondered if there are any known differences in behavior. For example do Male yellows talk as much as reds do? Any other behavioral differences?
Yellows are slightly smaller
Tend to bea little more delicate in behavour and movement
Are just as hardy
Dont spend as much time on the floor
Relate to reds as if they they dont exist..(one notices more interaction between a king parrot or a cocteil than between reds and yeloows
They call very similar but yellows are a little less vocal
Yellows in the avairy donrt seem to become as tame as the reds as easy or fast.
Dont seem to be as prolific breede4s as red, but are just as devoted to their chicks etc.
Are not quite as terroritorial or agressive as red around a nesting box
How they are as pets I dont know
or if they talk as well I dont know..never taught a red to talk or tried.
I am describing pure breed yellows here, not hybrids.
Even in NZ pure breed yellows are difficult to source and I believe overseas even harder to do so.. _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
Even in NZ pure breed yellows are difficult to source and I believe overseas even harder to do so..
As as I can tell they are pure yellow, no sign of red feathers on top and there is only a very feint yellow patch behind the eye (it is more noticeable on the male, on the female its barely visible). I did wonder whether its too noticeable on the male and whether it could have had red way back in the ancestry, but i've seen photos of supposed pure yellows which look similar.
We had them in the house for a short while, but they started to get difficult to persuade down of the curtain rail at night and as we didn't want to have to chase them they are now in an outside aviary. They're just about tame enough to eat from your fingers if your careful but not entirely trusting yet.
I wish I could find those myself, in my opinion they don't look bad at all (maybe the gurus are able to identify some subtle traces, I don't know).
In terms of mutation, it's probably split to pied or they have some pied blood (pink toes/white toenails), but I prefer a million times a pied bird, than a bird with obvious traces of hybridization.
(just my 2 cents)
The faint yellow spot behind the eye.....
I am not convinced that this neccessarliy indicates hybtidisation of yellow.
A very good close up of the yellow crown would help...
It does look a over all a little orange...yellow crownd are a definate mid yellow....
It is difficult to tell with pics in marginal cases due to variations in camera, editing and monitor settings _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
Thanks for responses, ill try and get a better photo tomorrow, difficult to get close ups they don't like to sit still for long. I'm not sure its really that orange in real life but equally some of the photos on here look very pale yellow.
In the meantime I blew up one of the photos to try and get a better look at the head. Sorry the photo is not great and its a point and click camera, will try better tomorrow. In the meantime if this helps...
This is the best I can get, I think the color is close to reality, they do look a little orange rather than pale yellow, it seems to be the a uniform color rather than a mix of red and yellow.
The dark stripes are the gaps between the feathers, cant see any red at all on the yellow part.
Our two are darker than the photo of the yellow you have shown there.
In the hybrid photo is the orange tinge cause by a mix of red and yellow, or are the feathers actually orange? To us it looks like mixed red and yellow feathers?
Have been looking at some wild yellow kakariki photos on Flickr, some are more light yellow some are a very good match, not sure that means anything due to camera color issues.
or yes.... there are mixed yellow and red feathers?
Talking about the crown of kakariki, at least in my red crowns I have noticed the red feathers aren't actually red, but the lower part of the feather is green and the upper part is red.
I wonder if this is what makes some of the goldcheck red fronted be mistaken for hybrids?
I have to pay attention to mine, didn't have a chance to hold them lately.
The hybrids have on close inspection crowns have red feathers or red parts in them, giving a orangey ting appearance, in or around the crown.
Im not familar with mutaions but as far as I know and understand both the red crown anfd yellow crown mutations have pure crowns same as wilds
Red crowns can vary quite a bit in the intensity of the crown from a deep crimson to a red
All of the yellows I have seen have been a pale yellow.
And the orange crown (Pic above next to a yellow) have the orange nose band...which is very different to the deeper orange appearance of yellow/red hybrids. _________________ My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
On the evidence I would have to conclude they are (probably) pure yellows, there's no red or orange feathers in the crown and some of the wild yellow kakariki photos we've looked at are a similar darker yellow color.
The seller told us they had pied parents, recently we've been trying to contact the original seller to get a few details but without much luck, they were bought at a big national bird show (Stafford) over here in the UK and on the day things are quite hectic and we didn't get to ask as many questions as we would have liked.
Whatever they are, we like them a lot. If we find out anything else we will update the thread, thanks for all the information so far.
Hi I Just thought i'd post an update, our two kaks have had their first clutch of eggs and two survived and have just left the nest. (rest seems to have been infertile or died very young). One of the chicks is not much different to the parents, but the other has reddish patches behind the eyes and the slightest hint of red fleck on its crown.
So would have to say they must have some red crowned genes in them after all even if its in quite small percentages.
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