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Slee
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:24 am    Post subject:

Thanks

Maybe start on treatment to prevent is good

The only Ivermectin I could find available at the moment in the UK costs £10 for a 5ml bottle, from a certain pet shop

Anyone know a cheaper and easy source in the UK?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:51 am    Post subject:

Hi, there was some on ebay much cheaper. Just bought some myself.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:32 am    Post subject:

Welcome to our community

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I've read through some posts saying the Male molt like this when they are ready to mate at this age

Psts here?
Anyway...load of total rubbish...a heathy bird in full molt will at most have a couple scruffy feathers (these are the ones ready to fall out) and a lot of new pin feathers.
No bare patches....Our kakatki, often its often hard even to tell if in moult

Reputable shops worm and dose for mites before putting in their cages for sale...some even give 2nd does at piont of sale.,,,as far as Im concerned reputable shops are rare as dodo eggs.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:14 am    Post subject:

I got me some Anti-Parasite Spot On for small birds which contain Ivermectin today
She's already not scratching as much now :)

Hope this works and worry about the other maybe problem
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:35 am    Post subject: ivermectin for parakeet

My parakeet has a pretty bad case of feather mites. I read about the Ivermectin treatment on this blog and I would want to try it. I am not sure about the dosage, the poor little fellow is just 33gr in weight. Any advice? Thank you.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:44 pm    Post subject:

Info here
http://www.kakariki.net/ftopicp-1089.html#1089

In the mean time add apple cider vinegar to vegges, and clean then mist spray birds, cages, perches with 50/50 vinegar and water.

on the left is a quick search block

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:57 am    Post subject:

Thank you, will do all of the above.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:16 am    Post subject:

Last year german vets discribed a mite of the genus Neocnemidocoptes. Its only found on Kakariki and causes the lose of small feathers.

The mites are very small living under the skin. You possibly can see a small bulb in the calamus-area of lost feathers, only ~1mm in diameter.



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:14 pm    Post subject:

Very interesting, thanks for sharing that information.
Just by chance, do you have a complete report of the research? I'm curious and I think some of the guys here would also be keen on reading it.

btw... very nice website! Can you give us a heads up when the translation is finished, I will link it from my website (I have a website in Spanish, but very basic for now, I should continue working on it).

Cheers / Pablo

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:25 am    Post subject:

pabloc wrote:
Very interesting, thanks for sharing that information.
Just by chance, do you have a complete report of the research? I'm curious and I think some of the guys here would also be keen on reading it.


Yes i have the literature but only in german languiche.
You should visit this page about fethermites: http://federmilben.de/en/home.html and ask Dr Schöne via e-mail, if has some english puplication about the Neocnemidocoptes-mites on Cyanoramphysspecies.
The chapter of my homepage about the mites is written in cooperation with Dr. Schöne, i hope it will be translatet in few days.

pabloc wrote:
btw... very nice website! Can you give us a heads up when the translation is finished, I will link it from my website (I have a website in Spanish, but very basic for now, I should continue working on it).

Cheers / Pablo


We are working hard, Gee is as busy s a bee. My written english is not the best, so she is doing the most work. If you or somebody else wants to risk a look on it, i might give a link to that what already is done. In the moment the english version is not linked with the internet and only reachable, if i give you the link.

by the way: If somone wants to help me: I need pictures and texts about breeding kakariki and chicks - from somone who knows what he is doing.
It can be written in english, translating from english to german is no problem for me. The original text would be used in the english version.of the homepage
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:01 am    Post subject:

Hi Georg,

thx for the information, I will contact Dr. Schöne as you suggest.

No need to rush, I asked out of curiosity. Unfortunately google translate is only good enough to have a general idea of a text, but when you try to translate a technical text or something very specific it becomes a mess.

Could you elaborate more on what you need regarding pics and information?

I have a picture gallery, and I'm ok with sharing whatever pictures you need. Feel free to take them: https://picasaweb.google.com/114095896337198450376

Kind regards / Pablo

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:18 am    Post subject:

What i like to have is a timeline with pictures, just from the first day up to that day, the parents are no longer needed.

We don't want our kakariki to breed, we do everything to prevent them to hatch a chick. So i can't do this myself.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:24 am    Post subject:

O.K. this is better than google.
the chapter "Feeding" is the last we will translate - it's so much.
http://kakariki-paradise.de/english/HTML/KAKARIKI_PARADISE.HTM

criticism is always w3c
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:51 am    Post subject:

Hi Georg,

Interesting findings about the mites. In the 'Avian medicine' there is a mention about a different specie of Knemydokoptes found on red fronted parakeets.

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A species of Knemidokoptes mite that is morphologically
distinct from K. pilae and K. laeris was recovered
from several groups of Red-fronted Parakeets
with feather loss. The featherless skin was hyperemic
and feather loss was prominent on the head and
neck. The mites were identified by microscopic examination
of material collected from the thickened
calamus. Mites were identified in adult and immature
birds but only the adults developed clinical
signs.99 Treatment consisted of two drops of a 1:20
dilution of 1% moxydectin topically on the neck.


A little further in the text.

Quote:
Knemidokoptes
and giardiasis are most commonly seen in
inbred birds suggesting a genetic immunosuppression


Something else. A few months ago someone made me aware of this website. http://www.ag-wildformen.de/projekte/info.php?grp=7
It's about a group of breeders who try to maintain the original wild color in Europe.
I've tried to contact them via email but they didn't respond. Maybe they didn't understand my German.
Do you know something more about them and the birds they breed?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:48 am    Post subject:

Peter wrote:
A few months ago someone made me aware of this website. http://www.ag-wildformen.de/projekte/info.php?grp=7
It's about a group of breeders who try to maintain the original wild color in Europe.
I've tried to contact them via email but they didn't respond. Maybe they didn't understand my German.
Do you know something more about them and the birds they breed?


Hallo Peter, i heared about this group the first time. But the webpage is interesting. Maybe we can find out more, we will try!

Yes the Mite-problem is very interesting, too.
I belong to a small group of kakariki-lovers that helps people to bring their bird, wich they can no longer care for to a person who is able to care well for him. For that we drive hundrets of kilometers per year. We saw so many kakarki with those symptomes of less feathers around the ears. I think 80% of the kakariki we transportet through germany showed this. So i'm shure this prob is realy widespread.
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