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Malgorzata
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:21 am    Post subject: Hello from Poland

Hi, I am new here :) found the site searching for some info about kakarikis (called "goat parrot" in Poland). I currently own a young pair :
male

By yowah76 at 2012-02-04
female (a bit angry Wink )

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hope I'll find all I need here
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:08 pm    Post subject:

Welcome to the forum. Goat parrot or Ziegensittich is also used in Germany. How do you pronounce it in your country?
Are there many Kakariki's in your country? What about the wildtype?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:10 am    Post subject:

It's pronounced "papuga kozia" (papoogah kozhia?) or simply "koza" = goat, the formal name is modrolotka czerwonoczapeczkowa (don't ask me for the pronunciation though). I lived abroad for a few years and they seem to become more popular during the time and aren't expensive; however, it's much easier to buy the pied or lutino ones, it took me some time to locate green pair and the male, as you can see has pink toes - one if his parent was yellow, the breeder said lutino but can't be sure until he breeds... the female is said to come from green to green mating.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:02 pm    Post subject:

Another problem is that although they should be banded and registred, most of the ones offered for sale aren't so if you want to breed them and legally sell the offspring the search for good quality stock may be even longer. Mine aren't banded but I got documents that enabled me to register them. Looks as I may have to buy some bands soon Wink as the female has layed the second egg today - I don't hope much for the first one as it was laid on the cage floor before I fitted the nesting box (had one ordered but I could only collect it two days later) I am quite happy with the male but the female is a bit on the small side and scrawny looking, and also a bit wary. At the moment she's very protective of the nest, screeching at me Twisted Evil whenever I enter the room. The male seems a bit confused about it all, looking inside the box and talking to her as if asking why she's spending all the time inside, he's not aggressive and still quite friendly. Well, we'll see Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:31 pm    Post subject:

Cool to have u on board.
Dont worry aboot the size of the female...doesnt really , in our experiance effect size...often the opposite, big birds.
She maybe small because of the deit the parent had while she was a chick...
Read the thread "what do u feed..."

And from the pics...nice looking birds regarless.
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Another problem is that although they should be banded and registred, most of the ones offered for sale aren't so if you want to breed them and legally sell the offspring the search for good quality stock may be even longer. Mine aren't banded but I got documents that enabled me to register them

W dont have anything like that in NZ..
Is this just for kakariki? all parrots /birds??
This just Poland?
Could u please explain in much more detail?
And what about if u source stock from say Netherlands or Belguim or Germany etc?[/quote]

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:49 pm    Post subject:

Actually I have never checked the details about parrots, I think that budgies don't have to be registered maybe cockatiels as well but all other species should. It's relatively new idea so quite a lot of breeders still won't do it. As long as you keep them as pets it shouldn't be a problem but to sell the young ones it's better to have it all done properly. If you import birds they would have documents of origin, maybe bamds, I think that some bigger species may even be microchipped? and so thay can be registered. It's the same with most species from CITES list.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:40 am    Post subject:

Ah so this is just for species on the CITIES list?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:08 pm    Post subject:

I will check for you but probably yes.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:25 pm    Post subject:

She laid another egg unfortunately she actually dropped it fom the perch (I saw it); I think it wasn't fully developed, still somehow leathery - probabbly laid to early, just about 24 hours after the previous one. In my opinion the previous egg could have been carried by her a bit longer than it should due to removing the temporary nest and introducing the nesting box and had stopped the last one from developing properly... the female looked a bit puffy afterwards but they were mating againg in the morning so we'll see how it will go Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:29 am    Post subject:

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still somehow leathery

Eggs are soft when laid, this is the issue with egg binding and when the egg goes hard inside the hen.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:51 am    Post subject:

still, it looked as if she had some kind of problem with it, sitting on the perch and straining so I feel it's better to loose the egg than the hen Think
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:53 am    Post subject:

Malgorzata wrote:
still, it looked as if she had some kind of problem with it, sitting on the perch and straining so I feel it's better to loose the egg than the hen Think


I think so too. When there is something wrong with the egg or problems to lay it, she will refuse to lay in the nest. Very often the egg is underdeveloped and it has to do with the fact that calcium intake is not sufficient.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:33 am    Post subject:

weel, she's definitely got enough opportunities to get her calcium etc, maybe was too busy guarding the nest to remember about it :oops:
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:23 pm    Post subject:

Its not just calcuyim, but phospours thats needed to enable the calcuim to be absorbed
Like citric acid is needed to absorb iron..
Its about considtant AND balanced diets

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:26 am    Post subject:

hello and w3c

sorry this is a bit late ive been really busy and havent got on here much latley ... enjoy your stay and your birds ... good luck

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